Beautifully filmed, beautifully acted (I often had to remind myself that SRK was Jr, also. He separated the roles so well,) great movie and I may never be able to watch it again. It scares me to death!!!! It hits too close to "possible" for our SRK. Even calling him "ours" (although I don't think he minds that, generally) is a little creepy if I do say so myself. Though I know SRK treats his fans less arrogantly than Senior did... the possibility for a rouge fan is so real. It frightened me for him. I had to watch Ra.one for a bit less reality. Job almost too well done, Sir!!!
Heya, Geeta! I'll still be in and out.. I have some stupid real life stuff going on... but I'm always checking in. Finally got to actually watch a movie the other day... it felt so very good... Hope all is well with you!!!
Can't find it anywhere. Netflix does not work in India. Loved the show.
O yes HUGE fan of Doctor Who. Though David and Matt are right up there. Like all the Doctors. Peter is amazing too.
Oh ujjwala, I'm sorry. I hope eventually India either gets Netflix or a way to get the "making of" show. Maybe it will pop up on youtube eventually...
I love Matt and David and even Christopher (he was my first...) People get so hung up in which Doctor is better, but I love the development of each incarnation. So maybe an Indian as the next Doctor? Or a woman? Or an Indian woman?????
^ Indeed. Every parent and child are keenly aware of the embarrassment factor. I actually was talking about the bit about Aryan being protective of his father and in bodyguard mode. He is serious about keeping his papa safe and therefore is much too busy to smile. Good man!
I was thinking about the never smiling thing. I bet it's in part because he's tired of all of the attention... but I also think he may have been taught to keep a sullen look on his face to avoid any "goofy-looking" pictures. Plant one look on your face and stick with it. I dunno... just a thought.
I don't think SRK Gauri would tell any of their children what kind of face to make when in public. I think Aryan is just not in a state where he can enjoy what's going on when being in the public focus. At least he is not showing his middle finger to the press or making other rude comments like other celebrity kids in the west might do! Having said that I just find it amazing what kind of man he has become - the kid is gone, you can clearly see that in these pics! But if he takes the route of an actor or other public profession, he will need to open up! But he is yet young enough, and I'm sure by giving him the time he needs he will get there on his own!
I think I have found the answer to this conundrum. Starts at around 00.45 secs.
That's it, just oh my... I know you've fainted. No seriously, I know what you mean, "Oh my" says it ALL! Of course I watch his commercials...well everything he does, even though I don't understand 99% of it. I've even impressed family and friends with my knowledge of Tag Heuer watches (I'm not a watch person) from the articles and media Kiran01 has uploaded. Thanks to Kiran01, I've even downloaded some of pictures from this thread.
It's the SRK effect. Solar flares and high winds and ... oh my head is spinning...
I am obviously going to have to watch it again... soon! I was so enthralled with SRK throughout the whole movie, I would have a hard time picking out any one or two scenes. Plus, now that I've watched it and read all of the subtitles... I can pay more attention to the performances.
One of the performances I enjoyed very much was Amitabh's as the shepherd. A great supporting cast over all.
1. Nobody, but noooobody romances like our SRK. Nobody.
2. He was an attractive young man, but WOW do I prefer his mature face (which he had acquired by the time this movie was made.)
3. What a lovely, sweet, adorable movie. I can't wait to watch that one again....
... gonna have to research what kind of berries those were....
Certainly a very special movie, one of my favorites! I can watch this one any time, and endulge myself in the simpleness and tenderness of this movie!
For me... it's how completely he loves her. So utterly devoted to her. The love scenes were amazing, but it was the love they grew from that got to me. SRK seems to understand the idea that it's not what you do, nor how you do it... it's the depth of feeling with which you do it that matters. At least on screen, he's got that down pat. If he's got it down in life, too... Gauri is one lucky woman.... married to one lucky man.
Your goose...um guess... is as good as mine. No idea. And having no idea frustrates me... grrr.
I was looking at the growth pattern on the bush as much as the berry itself and gooseberries seem to grow in clusters whereas the bushes in the movies seem to have individual berries. Who knows if those bushes are even real? Even more interesting to me than the berries themselves was the idea that because they weren't cultivated and grew wild that they were beneath Kishanlal standards. A money hungry man who didn't appreciate the value of a free meal? Or the deliciousness of a found treat? No wonder Lachchi was so easily wooed. Served him right.
It got under my skin too :). Shah Rukh is a very effective actor - one of the best in Bollywood ; something we both already know. Thanks for discussing the movie with me. Your insights also made me look at the "what ifs" ...and that is always good. Hope we can each out to each other again in the future. All the best!
I do understand how Indian marriage has been traditionally handled. I actually find it very romantic, the idea of love growing out of a partnership. That is probably the main reason I love RNBDJ so very much. One of the things I adore about Indian society is the importance of family. Do I feel that in the best of situations parents take their children's wishes into consideration? Yes... but I also find it lovely that loving children value the wisdom of their parents.
I don't mean that he had to go to London... it was just an option... if, say, he needed to put distance between himself and Paro. I'm only saying that his only choices weren't between either being with Paro or going along with his family's wishes and then ending up utterly destroyed. His family was pretty put out by his drunkenness, as well. He could have followed his family's wishes... married whomever they chose for him and lived. Perhaps in London if it made things easier for him.
As for what Devdas should have done or not.... it doesn't matter. That's the story. It's a story about a man who destroys himself for love. A very effective story that got under my skin.
I agree. I thought about that after watching it several times and reading the novel. What could the man do? He could embarrass his family by going lower and choosing to live in a brothel with one of its best known courtesans; only returning home for a short visit at the demise of his overbearing father. I really loved this complex character! In my opinion, he was better than any Shakespearean character including Hamlet.
Asoka, on the other hand was power mad and would do anything to grab the throne of his father from his brothers.
I don't think Ashoka was power mad... after he met Kaurwaki. I think he was prepared to live a quiet, happy life with her... until... THEN... he went mad... most definitely. Also not a brilliant way to spend one's time.
I love what he says about Devdas: that he is a strong man, disguised as weak and Ashoka is a weak man disguised as strong. Meaning for Devdas to sink so completely in some ways he had to have an iron will to do so.
Of course I'm no expert on the mores of the time, but it seems to me that he constantly acts outside of them throughout the film. Right from the beginning when he visits Paro's house before his mother, his behaviour is unacceptable - the drinking, taking up with Chandramukhi, living in the brothel, urging Paro to run away with him after she is married. The only time he seems to act according to expectations is when he leaves Paro, and I feel that is through fear of his father rather than obligation.
I know Shahrukh has said he sees Devdas as strong, but I don't agree. Or else it is a different interpretation of the word - perhaps 'driven'. An interesting debate nevertheless.
What could Devdas have done? He could have gone back to London, begun his career, carried out that time honored Indian trait of getting through hard times by working hard. He could have allowed time to heal the wound, married, had a family, ... he could have lived with the choice he made.
I know that it seems tragically romantic to some... Like I said... I might just be too old. To me, it was the waste of a valuable life.
I suppose I can see something in the fact that Paro waited ten years longing for him, so he, in turn, pined for her... but, you know... he only wrote her 5 times in all of that time. He was otherwise engaged. I think he could have done it again. It wouldn't have lessened his love for her one iota. He could have done what she asked him. Stop drinking. Live.
It's a good story. It's a good tragedy. It does a good job of making me angry...
I loved the friendship that formed between Paro and Chandramukhi. Their dance was my absolute favorite.
Maybe it's my age.. or maybe I've lost too many to such anguish that drove themselves to killing themselves either suddenly or slowly... but I still want to slap him. I value his respect for his parents. I cherish his love for Paro. There was NO happy choice, however once that choice is made...it must be lived with. Grieve, but then live your life. Yearn, as Paro did, but live! I know, that undying love is romantic, but destroying the man his beloved loved... no. Be like SRK. You suffer an injury and then you find a way to overcome it. It's not easy... it sucks... but you find a way. I know that I must seem harsh... I just hated watching him waste away.
This doesn't mean that I didn't LOVE the movie by the way, I did. Very much so... but these are some of the emotions he pulled out of me with this one.
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Ok... I'm a little creeped out. How did I know to watch Devdas on the 13th year celebration when I didn't knooooow it was the 13th year celebration?????
How did you like it? It's my favorite SRK death scene!
I feel a bit like a broken record. I loved it, of course. It was perfect way to end it considering the course the story took. AND our fella was magnificent. AND I hated it. It infuriated me. AND I wanted to "pull a MOONSTRUCK" all through the movie and smack him and tell him to "SNAP OUT OF IT!!!!!" It would have fit. There's a lot of smacking in these movies.
Have I mentioned that dichotomy is now my favorite word????
Madhuri Dixit and Aishwarya Rai Bachchan were.... just... wow. Having just seen Kiron Kher in Veer-Zaara... and her dance in this... and Omigosh... that was her in MHN and OSO. I think I've found someone to watch for in other movies.