sateesh, hoped for a reaction to the previous posts, but when I saw "koimoi" I just stopped reading...they now belong to those media I won't read any more (personal choice ...like Pinkvilla and MumbaiMirror and Rajeev Masand...just too much lying or gossiping...bad journalism )
Last Edit: Feb 18, 2017 8:31:53 GMT -8 by clochette
Rahul, I think that has nothing to do with the Raees team...if I'm not wrong, the distributor of the music has decided not to collaborate with the respective singer any more...maybe that fall-out was also a reason that Zaalima was done later on.
Thanks, sateesh, for the article So, if I am right, for the BOI 'verdict' (hit or semi-hit or whatever), the 70 crore of distribution rights to AA Films are what is important for India...the rest has no importance, right?
I largely prefer a ShahRukh who ist doing the movies he wants to do and releases them at the dates he chooses as the best possible. I doubt that FAN or Raees would have made a very big business in India at another time (a bit more, maybe but not really in the high numbers). He knew it with FAN, he knew it with Raees...both being movies that do not cater to a wide audience (instead they focussed on the possibility to show his acting skills and to do something 'out of the box' again).
Yet with the choices he made for the movies & for the release he could still register a certain success...and THAT is something neither Aamir nor Salman were able to do
I have no qualms with Aamir's and Salman's boxoffice successes...there is place and space enough at the top positions in Hindi cinema...both have earned more money the last years but when it comes to the versatility of acting in a wide range and very, very nuanced, ShahRukh is ahead of them
There is no main-ShahRukh-movie where I did not get from ShahRukh a performance that made me relate to the character, understand the man he played...the rest of the movie mostly is not really 'in his hands'
Last Edit: Feb 12, 2017 1:02:10 GMT -8 by clochette
qureshi, I think you know that BOI.com is not a really neutral source either...so the calculator-numbers you posted may not be the right ones (so maybe better to add: "All information is subject to change." or " This information is supplied without liability." )
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If it needed that clash to get a change towards better and more reliable reports about the financial outcome of a movie, I admire ShahRukh's (& Excel's) moves to stick to the date...well, actually, now it seems even make sense to choose the clash with Rakesh Roshan (because there had been other options). Remembering Hrithiks behaviour at a recent interview, I even think that he himself was not at all happy with his father's behaviour...
They just cannot be 'neutral' and report fair numbers without any comments in favour or disfavour of an actor...really not my cup of tea even though they wrote some (positive) truths about ShahRukh. (Nevertheless, thanks for posting, mirzay )
tina, you may have a point here concerning the 'neutral' people and/or the wish to be able to talk about certain popular movies. But I don't agree to the last sentence I hope that ShahRukh will continue doing movies with his heart & soul, that he may always be able to keep the calculator out of his choices and leave it to the RedChillies' accountants
Last Edit: Feb 7, 2017 15:34:35 GMT -8 by clochette
I agree to what you wrote, poonam...as it were these song sequences they shot when starting the shooting process, the song was meant to establish a certain knowing about their romance and living background. But later it became clear that maybe the showing of their loving and relation on an equal level still going strong AFTER the marriage would be important, they changed their mind and made Zaalima as they had got additional time to do so. In addition, they had enough scenes with hints about the community and the well established love between Aasiya and Raees.
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I am even less interested in Kabil's numbers than in Raees' ones. If Kabil will not become a succes I am not sad for Mr. Rakesh Roshan but for all those who invested their creative work to make a hopefully watchable movie. Hrithik's father, maybe, should ask himself what he himself did in the wrong way...or he should change his superstitions...
O Zaalima was a perfect match to show their love as a married couple. Halka Halka seems to have been destined to be included even before UdiUdiJaye...it was - imo - a wise decision to cut the song from the movie. The scenes before UdiUdiJaye sufficiently showed the nature of their relation. But I like that they published the song now because it means even more scenes with ShahRukh and Mahira. I am waiting patiently for the deleted scenes
Last Edit: Feb 5, 2017 10:06:20 GMT -8 by clochette
I don't want ShahRukh to enter that number game...I don't want him to lose his sense of honesty because of people like Rakesh or Sitesh...He took the flag of letting pass EID because he is loyal to Aditya who had (inofficially) announced the date of Sultan to Ritesh before latter announced 'his' date officially...he risked the fall-out with Eros (which happened with repercussions till now) just to stick to his commitments. Honestly, so many here bash Karan or Farah or Rohit...but just now, it's Ritesh who puts ShahRukh in an awkward situation towards the public for the third time... Rahul and ShahRukh made a very intelligent entertaining movie...wonder what the effect of Raees could have been without Ritesh messing around.
I don't believe in BOI - not because of the numbers but because they declare themselves 'official' and there is nothing in India like an 'official' boxoffice...
Last Edit: Feb 5, 2017 0:10:47 GMT -8 by clochette
That's why I don't believe in that number game...Overseas is okay, they have another system to get the numbers, but India...there are enough people wanting to harm ShahRukh and RCE and with the right amount of money you get every negative number, every negative review, every negativity in short The big success of ShahRukh's movies in overseas are a proof that - apart from personal impressions - the business in India is manipulated (there are simply enough people who want to 'destroy' him...especially in the filmindustry - politics are just means to the end)
Last Edit: Feb 2, 2017 5:22:38 GMT -8 by clochette